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Why are drand48() and friends obsolete?


Why are drand48() and friends obsolete? After all, they seem superior to the standard libc rand(). Have I missed something?

The manual pages for rand() and drand48() also seem at odds. The first recommends the second, and the second states that it is obsolete and the first should be used. (Though, to be fair, a lot of people who understand the math behind PRNGs have issues with the man pages for these functions because they are poorly-worded and in some instances just wrong.)

Still, I can find no justification for the "obsolete" status.


Solution

  • UPDTATE: drand48 and friends are not obsolescent, and the man page no longer says they are. Apparently the change was made in response to this answer (which is kinda cool).

    A git repo containing the Linux man pages is here:

    https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git

    The relevant log entry is:

    commit 3db3ecf0ff358ab86ead91d767b8ef502bffe26b
    Author: Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]>
    Date:   2014-09-13 20:08:10 -0700
    
        drand48.3: Remove crufty text about SVID 3 marking drand48() obsolete
        
        See http://bugs.debian.org/758293
        
        drand48() is in current POSIX. It's unclear why SVID 3 would
        have marked it obsolete, but that's crufty information that
        only serves to pointlessly worry people.
        
        Reported-by: Lorenzo Beretta <[email protected]>
        Signed-off-by: Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]>
    

    See also this bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758293, which triggered the change.

    My original answer follows.


    The man page on my system (which is from the Linux man-pages project says:

    These functions are declared obsolete by SVID 3, which states that rand(3) should be used instead.

    SVID 3 was published in 1989.

    SVID 4 (the link is to a 720-page PDF), published in 1995, documents drand48, erand48, lrand48, nrand48, mrand48, jrand48, srand48, seed48, and lcong48 and, like POSIX, says nothing about them being obsolete.

    POSIX, as of 2013, says nothing about them being obsolete, obsolescent, or deprecated.

    I haven't found a copy of SVID 3, so I don't know why it would have declared those functions obsolete, but apparently that decision was reconsidered later. The statement in the man page seems like out-of-date information. I wouldn't worry about it.

    As for which function you should use, the C standard rand() function is the most portable (unless you recompile a different one from source code). Some rand() implementations are poor quality, with the low-order bits repeating in a very regular pattern; others are slightly better.

    If you don't need high quality pseudo-random numbers, you might as well use rand() (seeded by calling srand() with a reasonable value, e.g., srand(time(NULL))).

    If you do need high-quality pseudo-random numbers, it's likely that none of these functions is good enough, I'd advise against using any of them for cryptography, for example. You can use /dev/urandom or /dev/random if your system supports it. I've heard good things about the Mersenne Twister, but I lack the expertise to comment further.

    (BTW, if you do a Google search for SVID, watch out for Svið).